Carolin Roth X Matthias Geissbühler and Thomas der Sparkojote
Saving or investing – what’s the best way to get rich?
Matthias Geissbühler and Thomas “der Sparkojote” discuss investment strategies, savings plans, whether banks are even necessary for them, and what their best in-vestments have been.

These days, it’s a simple matter for anyone to open a trading account and start deal-ing in equities, ETFs and cryptocurrencies – and, if things go well, accumulate some wealth in the process. All it takes is an app on a smartphone. But what is the right way to invest, how much capital do I need, and where can I learn how to do it right? Chief Investment Officer Matthias Geissbühler and finance blogger Thomas Brandon Kovacs get together to provide some answers. Representing two generations with two different perspectives, they talk frankly and honestly about their most and least suc-cessful investments, hard-earned lessons, and the importance of financial education.
The podcasts are available — by episodes — in German and French.
Chief Investment Officer (CIO) at Raiffeisen Switzerland

Matthias Geissbühler
Matthias Geissbühler is Chief Investment Officer (CIO) at Raiffeisen Switzerland. After studying business administration at the University of St. Gallen, he worked at various banks in the areas of equity research and portfolio and fund management. In 2010, he took over as Head of Investment Strategy at the private bank La Roche in Basel, and remained in this role after the merger with Notenstein. Matthias Geissbühler has been responsible for Raiffeisen Switzerland’s investment policy as Chief Investment Officer (CIO) since January 2019.
Swiss Finance Blogger

Thomas “der Sparkojote”
Thomas Brandon Kovacs runs one of Switzerland’s biggest finance blogs under the name “Thomas der Sparkojote”, focusing on equities, business and minimalism. Since launching the blog nine years ago, he has racked up 45,000 subscribers on YouTube alone. A computer scientist by training, he quit his in-house job in 2018 and has been working freelance ever since. He has built up an investment portfolio worth more than CHF 1 million – before reaching the age of 30. He also runs one of the largest online shops selling Pokémon, Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh! cards.
Host

Carolin Roth
Carolin Roth is a financial journalist, moderator and reporter boasting over 17 years’ experience with CNBC International in Zurich and London, where she has presented live programmes on financial markets, business and politics for an international audience. She now works on a freelance basis for NZZ Connect, Handelsblatt and Forbes, among others, and moderates conferences on such topics as sustainable investment, geopolitics and the digital transformation. With her excellent specialist knowledge, international experience and self-assured manner, she makes complex economic relationships easy to understand, be it on stage, in the studio or on a podcast.
